Thursday, 2007-04-12

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cgTobihi Andrew00:37
PseudonymG'day.00:37
cgTobiHow are you?00:37
PseudonymOK.  You?00:38
cgTobime too00:38
cgTobihow was your interview?00:38
PseudonymIt went very well.00:39
PseudonymEasiest interview I've ever had.00:39
cgTobicongrats00:39
PseudonymAnd I had lunch with one of my friends who works there after it, and he said to me: "They've basically promised me that they'd hire you."00:39
PseudonymI feel like I've been put in the spotlight. :-)00:40
cgTobihehe, cool00:40
cgTobihttp://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~omri/Humor/00:40
PseudonymOh, cool.  I've seen some of these...00:41
cgTobihehe, one of my favs is 'write in C'00:54
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WayneZacMPgreetings07:27
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pgregorymorning all07:54
WayneZacMPhey hey07:54
pgregoryhi WayneZacMP07:55
WayneZacMPGSoC results are in, and I am accepted!07:55
WayneZacMPhi07:55
pgregoryaha, so you're Zachary Carter, right?07:56
WayneZacMPyes07:56
pgregorywelcome07:56
WayneZacMPthank you07:56
WayneZacMPfeeling good07:57
pgregoryI've just posted the good news to the Aqsis homepage.07:57
pgregoryI'll setup a Wiki page for your project momentarily07:57
* WayneZacMP looks07:57
pgregoryWayneZacMP: have you registered your IRC nick?07:57
WayneZacMPno, can it be done from this applet, or should I use an irc client?07:58
pgregoryI think you can do it from the applet...07:59
pgregorydo a /msg nickserv help to get help07:59
pgregoryyou need to use the register command.07:59
WayneZacMPok07:59
pgregorywithout registering your nick with nickserv, you can't accept private messages.08:00
WayneZacMPI am registered now08:03
pgregoryWayneZacMP: did you see my message?08:06
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WayneZacMPthat's better08:10
pgregoryWayneZacMP: did you get my private message now?08:11
WayneZacMPyep08:12
PseudonymWooh, we got money?08:14
PseudonymYay!08:14
PseudonymWoot!08:15
PseudonymTwo excellent projects, too.08:15
WayneZacMPlol08:17
WayneZacMPI think so08:17
pgregoryhi Andrew08:18
PseudonymG'day.08:19
PseudonymSo WayneZacMP... what name do you normally go by, BTW?08:19
PseudonymZachary?  Zac?08:19
WayneZacMPZac08:19
PseudonymZac it is.08:19
PseudonymI'm Andrew, BTW/08:19
WayneZacMPHi Andrew08:20
PseudonymI'd appreciate some comments on file formats.08:20
WayneZacMPI am happy to be on the team08:20
Pseudonymhttp://www.aqsis.org/xoops/modules/wikimod/index.php?page=AqsisFileFormat08:21
PseudonymI'd appreciate a critique.08:21
PseudonymSince this affects you.08:21
PseudonymA deep shadow file is a tile-based file format.08:21
PseudonymSo we need a file format that can handle random-access tile-like data.08:21
PseudonymI wrote that a couple of years ago.08:22
PseudonymYou don't have to use it. :-)08:22
PseudonymI implemented about a third of it.08:22
PseudonymBut I'd appreciate a critique.08:22
WayneZacMPthen I'll read it and give one08:23
PseudonymThanks.08:23
PseudonymIt's a wiki, so feel free to deface it. :-)08:23
PseudonymAnyway, gotta head off.08:34
PseudonymNight all, and congrats!08:34
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cgTobimorning all10:44
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blend_demhi everybody11:29
cgTobihi blend_dem11:29
tcolgatemornin' all11:31
tcolgatepaul: good idea on including the revision.11:32
cgTobihi Minty11:36
tcolgatehi11:46
tcolgateSo what is the news re: SoC11:46
tcolgateI've not had any mails on gmail.11:48
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renderguyAfternoon all.12:39
pgregoryhi renderguy12:39
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cgTobihi Leon12:39
renderguyMT and DSM it is then.  ;-)12:39
tcolgateyeah, though nothing seems to have happenedon the SoC mentors home pages.12:40
tcolgateHave they had the official anouncements yet?12:41
tcolgates/had/made/12:41
renderguytcolgate: Yep... http://code.google.com/soc/aqsis/about.html12:41
tcolgateAhaha, who wrote that text "good working relationship with ...blender"12:42
tcolgateoh really!12:42
renderguytcolgate: That'll be me... I was hoping to swing Google's decision - It's not a complete untruth.12:43
renderguytcolgate: Besides, given one of Blender's SoC projects I feel we'll be even closer - http://code.google.com/soc/blender/appinfo.html?csaid=235EB795F412CC4312:45
* tcolgate avoids being cynical12:54
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renderguytcolgate: Looking forward to mentoring?13:20
tcolgateI suppose I'm nervous, just don't want to let the chap down.13:22
tcolgateEqually, I know I'm going to get frustrated.13:22
renderguytcolgate: Other than your Sun box do you have a multi-processor/core box?13:27
tcolgateWell yes and no13:31
tcolgateI;ve got a box, but it's firml mothballed and not likely to be resurrected.13:31
tcolgateHopefully our applicant has something for his own use, I'll work on getting the sun box building stuff again.13:31
renderguyAny ideas on how to execute an external application within a Python?13:55
tcolgatewithin a python script you mean?13:56
tcolgatelooks for a functoin called "system", that's pretty much the standard name.13:56
pgregoryyep13:56
tcolgatehttp://docs.python.org/lib/module-commands.html13:57
renderguyCheers.13:59
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mafmhi14:12
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tcolgatehi mafm14:15
renderguymafm: Congrats!14:15
mafm:D14:17
mafmthank you very much for accepting my proposal14:17
mafmSo only two people accepted for Aqsis?14:20
tcolgateGoogle limited us to two people and we went for the most realistic options.14:22
mafmI only remember CrystalSpace for the last year14:23
mafmthey were given 7, this year only 414:23
tcolgateWell it's two more sponsored developers than we've eer had before, so I don't think we'll be complaining.14:24
mafmin your first year, that's not bad :D14:25
mafmonly projects like KDE and similar get huge numbers of people assigned14:26
mafmlike 15 or so14:26
tcolgateTwo is OK, TBH mentoring any more would have been problematic.14:28
mafm:)14:29
tcolgateAs it stands I'm not exactly around much or terribly active, and Chris is pretty new to the code.14:29
pgregoryI'm always here as backup on all projects14:29
mafmwhat's Chris' nickname?14:29
pgregoryc42f14:30
tcolgateThe only other possible mentor would really have been Michel and he's not around too much either.14:30
tcolgateBefore this whole thing kicks off properly I'll do some updates to the existing MT wiki pge to bring it in line with some of the discussion we've had in here.14:31
tcolgatemmm, prcedurals and threaded buckets, yummy. not.14:32
mafmall right14:33
tcolgatehmm, read/write locks on CqSurface's perhaps.14:34
tcolgatemafm: qiuck question....14:35
tcolgateDo you happen to have a multi-processor machine?14:35
tcolgateoooooooh14:38
tcolgateBoost have a coroutine api as part of SoC, could be interesting for the suspendable shading side of native shaders, if that ever comes about.14:39
mafmnope :S14:39
mafmI have access to amd6414:39
mafmbut probably can get access to them if needed14:39
mafmto test things later, make the benchmarks and so on14:39
tcolgatemafm: it's pretty important for testing.14:41
mafmdo you mean while developing?14:42
renderguytcolgate: I'll see if our host can offer anything.14:51
mafmNow that I come to think of it, I think that I have access to several of them14:53
mafmthey're not local machines, but for Aqsis that's not important :D14:53
renderguymafm: Remote access, as you mention, should be fine.15:05
tcolgatemafm: also, I'd recommend spending some time gettng familiar with valgrind. 1. becuase it's well worth it, 2. you'll come to love it, and 3. is now has a tool called helgrind that spots races in multi threaded apps.15:06
mafmI have a bit of experience, for debugging leaks and segfaults15:19
mafmnot very familiar with its other tools15:19
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tcolgateMost of them aren't really any harder/different to use, so if you've used it before you'll be ok.15:36
tcolgateI've not used helgrind either, but I guess we'll be getting to know it quite well :)15:36
mafminteresting thing to learn, isn't it? :)15:39
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renderguyGotta shoot, laterz.17:17
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AnteruEvening18:24
AnteruHi mafm18:24
AnteruHave you been accepted to SoC?18:24
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mafmhi Anteru18:29
mafmyep, I've been accepted :)18:29
Anterucongrats!18:34
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mafmthank you :)19:07
mafm(I was busy here, sorry for the delay :) )19:07
Anteruno deal19:08
Anterujust fiddling around with my configs, popped in a dc cp19:08
Anterucpu*19:09
Anterubbl19:13
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mafmheading home, bye19:28
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WayneZacMPhello21:01
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cgTobievening all21:24
WayneZacMPhowdy21:24
cgTobihi WayneZacMP21:24
WayneZacMPhi cgTobi21:24
* WayneZacMP is one of the two GSoC students accepted for Aqsis21:25
cgTobiwow, congrats21:26
WayneZacMPthanks21:26
cgTobiwhat was your project again?21:26
WayneZacMPDSM21:26
cgTobiah, nice21:29
cgTobiit was on my list, seams that I can look for something new then ;)21:29
WayneZacMPthere's lots on the ToDo list21:30
cgTobiyeah, I know21:30
WayneZacMPI want to meet the other SoC student21:34
WayneZacMPI'm heading to the lab for homework21:38
cgTobiIC21:39
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