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| ShortWaveWrk | sorry I missed that | 01:18 |
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| pgregory | morning all | 08:46 |
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| tcolgate | mornin' all | 09:06 |
| pgregory | hi Minty | 09:07 |
| tcolgate | paul: My build problems were down to me being silly and giving the wrong path to boost. | 09:07 |
| pgregory | phew | 09:07 |
| pgregory | rc4 is up, still on for a weekend release (fingers crossed). | 09:07 |
| tcolgate | ....but then I start getting an internal compiler error :( | 09:07 |
| tcolgate | cool, sounds like a good idea, best to just get a release out there. | 09:08 |
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| renderguy | Morning all. | 09:40 |
| pgregory | hi Leon | 09:44 |
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| renderguy | pgregory: Do you have a link to the SF SVN info you were reading, which gave the new/correct domain URLs | 09:45 |
| pgregory | renderguy: hold on... | 09:45 |
| * renderguy holds. | 09:45 | |
| pgregory | nope can't find it | 09:54 |
| renderguy | pgregory: NP, just curious. | 10:00 |
| renderguy | pgregory: Jez on holiday ? | 10:00 |
| renderguy | Seems Google has announced its 'Summer of Code' initiative for 2007 - http://code.google.com/soc | 10:47 |
| renderguy | pgregory: What to try submiting your proposal again ? | 10:53 |
| pgregory | could do I suppose | 10:54 |
| renderguy | pgregory: Actually, before you do, mind if I read it again (lost the file) ? | 10:56 |
| pgregory | I don't have the original submission anymore I don't think | 11:00 |
| pgregory | actually, thanks to GMail, I do. | 11:01 |
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| renderguy | Joron: Morning. | 11:42 |
| Joron | Hello | 11:43 |
| renderguy | Joron: What is up ? ;-) | 11:43 |
| * renderguy thought he'd beat Michel to it. | 11:43 | |
| Joron | Not much it is Friday; and I saw you move the import libraries to lib directory instead of bin directory... and I figure out why d_bmp was not registered. | 11:46 |
| renderguy | Joron: Does the 'libs' dir look okay to you/better ? | 12:04 |
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| Joron | lib directory is looking ok; but I will redownload aqsis to be exra sure... (small sanity check). | 12:08 |
| Joron | s/exra/extra | 12:08 |
| renderguy | Joron: K, cheers. | 12:10 |
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| renderguy | cgTobi: Moin. | 12:10 |
| Joron | anyway I got to go to work cheers. :-) | 12:15 |
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| scorp007 | hi | 12:24 |
| scorp007 | how do you normally turn of all quantization? i.e. to get floating point pixels? | 12:24 |
| pgregory | Quantize "rgba" 0 0 0 0 | 12:25 |
| scorp007 | but that turns off dithering too? or does dithering only make sense when you quantize? | 12:25 |
| pgregory | dithering only makes sense with integer formats | 12:25 |
| scorp007 | ok, thought so | 12:25 |
| scorp007 | would this be equivalent in C? RiQuantize(RI_RGBA, 0, 0, 0, 0); | 12:27 |
| pgregory | off the top of my head, yes | 12:27 |
| scorp007 | ok | 12:27 |
| scorp007 | does aqsis have an interface for custom display drivers to implement? | 12:29 |
| scorp007 | and is it documented somewhere? | 12:29 |
| pgregory | we follow the PRMan display interface, and no we don't have any documentation for it at the moment, you can refer to the 3Delight, RDC or PRMan docs. | 12:31 |
| scorp007 | oh, are they all the same? | 12:31 |
| scorp007 | if so, then that's perfect for me | 12:31 |
| pgregory | I think so | 12:31 |
| scorp007 | does it resemble anything like: PtDspyError DspyImageQuery ( PtDspyImageHandle image, PtDspyQueryType type, size t size, void *data ) | 12:32 |
| pgregory | yep | 12:33 |
| scorp007 | really? thats excellent | 12:33 |
| scorp007 | I thought i would have to develop a custom display driver differently for each renderer | 12:33 |
| scorp007 | but it seems all i need to do is link it against the appropriate libraries | 12:34 |
| pgregory | you shouldn't need to link against anything, at least you don't for Aqsis | 12:34 |
| scorp007 | oh, actually, you're right | 12:34 |
| scorp007 | my mistake | 12:34 |
| pgregory | Aqsis has been tested with 3Delight's binary display and shown to work (note: not by me) | 12:34 |
| scorp007 | wait, so that means i don't even have to rebuild it for other renderers? | 12:35 |
| scorp007 | thats excellent! | 12:35 |
| cgTobi | hi all | 12:35 |
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| scorp007 | Paul, so doesn't that mean that aqsis should be able to work with 3dl's i-display too? | 12:35 |
| pgregory | that's the one that was tested, IIRC | 12:35 |
| scorp007 | oh ok | 12:36 |
| scorp007 | the only thing that's different then, is your file naming conventions, for the display drivers | 12:36 |
| pgregory | we have no conventions, you can call your display whatever you like, as long as it's setup in .aqsisrc | 12:37 |
| * cgTobi is packing his bags now. | 12:37 | |
| scorp007 | hmm? What kind of stuff do you put in .aqsisrc? | 12:37 |
| pgregory | configuration stuff | 12:37 |
| pgregory | cgTobi: ??? | 12:38 |
| cgTobi | pgregory: I'm leaving tomorrow | 12:38 |
| scorp007 | but i see in your /bin folder, files like d_*.dll, which i assume are for display drivers? | 12:38 |
| scorp007 | if you change the naming, how will aqsis know which file to load? | 12:39 |
| scorp007 | or is that specified in .aqsisrc? | 12:39 |
| pgregory | scorp007: display type mapping to display shared object is handled as part of our flexible options system# | 12:39 |
| pgregory | scorp007: take a look at your .aqsisrc and you'll see | 12:39 |
| scorp007 | oh | 12:39 |
| scorp007 | does .aqsisrc exist on windows, too? | 12:39 |
| pgregory | yes | 12:39 |
| scorp007 | where is it located? | 12:39 |
| pgregory | although it's not called .aqsisrc IIRC | 12:39 |
| pgregory | should be the same place as your aqsis.exe | 12:40 |
| scorp007 | ahh, now i see it | 12:40 |
| scorp007 | ah, so i see you handle multiple outputs in the same dll file | 12:40 |
| pgregory | yes, the requested display type is passed in during setup, so a single display device can decide to behave in different ways depending on what was requested in the RIB | 12:41 |
| scorp007 | and you can somehow read the parameter in? of the display type requested? | 12:42 |
| pgregory | yes, using Query | 12:43 |
| scorp007 | i see | 12:43 |
| pgregory | see our default display device for an example | 12:43 |
| scorp007 | which parameter in Query tells you this? are you sure its not ImageOpen? | 12:43 |
| renderguy | Reboot, BIAB. | 12:44 |
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| pgregory | scorp007: yes, you're right it's passed into ImageOpen | 12:44 |
| scorp007 | i see | 12:45 |
| scorp007 | ah, i see how it works now | 12:46 |
| scorp007 | and you guys use all the same structs for parameter passing, pixel formats, etc/ | 12:47 |
| scorp007 | ? | 12:47 |
| pgregory | AFAIK | 12:47 |
| scorp007 | you know a pointer to PtDspyDevFormat gets passed into ImageOpen, does the amount of those structs vary based on the amount of RiDisplay calls you make or something? | 12:49 |
| pgregory | sorry, not with you? | 12:51 |
| scorp007 | you know how you get int formatcount, PtDspyDevFormat *format in the ImageOpen function? | 12:52 |
| scorp007 | so you can iterate through all the format's | 12:52 |
| pgregory | yes | 12:52 |
| scorp007 | what Ri call causes there to be more than 1 format? | 12:52 |
| pgregory | There are always more than one format. | 12:53 |
| scorp007 | oh | 12:53 |
| pgregory | sorry, meeting, back soon | 12:53 |
| scorp007 | that's what's confusing me, ok, no problem | 12:53 |
| scorp007 | while Paul is away, does anyone else know what he meant by "There are always more than one format."? | 13:06 |
| scorp007 | I am a bit confused about where the function gets these formats from | 13:07 |
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| pgregory | back | 13:43 |
| cgTobi | wb Paul | 13:44 |
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| Joron | I re-download rc4; I tried librib2ri, libaqsis.a and tried with the current RTS; and new bmp display driver on XP ; everything seems in order. | 15:15 |
| Joron | 175 testcase took about 16 minutes (rt_aqsis) no regression found. | 15:16 |
| Joron | Is it a way to test libshadervm.a, libslxparse.a ? | 15:17 |
| pgregory | hi Michel | 15:18 |
| pgregory | thanks for that | 15:18 |
| pgregory | I wouldn't worry too much about those libraries right now, we know they work, as we use them, and the actual liklihood of someone wanting to use them outside the project is limited | 15:18 |
| Joron | also tried back the dso loading it still working. | 15:19 |
| Joron | Install.txt might need a small edition since for development on XP the programmer will only need scons and boost. | 15:21 |
| Joron | fltk is provided no ? | 15:21 |
| pgregory | yes, as is OpenEXR | 15:24 |
| Joron | very true. | 15:26 |
| Joron | anyway got to go back to the pit. | 15:27 |
| Joron | byebye | 15:27 |
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| pgregory | gotta go, cya later | 15:51 |
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| cgTobi | hey Bobby, how are you? | 16:31 |
| ShortWave | doing ok | 16:33 |
| cgTobi | good to hear | 16:36 |
| cgTobi | back later maybe | 16:40 |
| cgTobi | otherwise you'll hear from me once I'm in London | 16:41 |
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| Joron | Hello | 17:33 |
| Joron | Tristan did you succeed to have a version of aqsis on sparc ? | 17:33 |
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