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| pgregory | ls | 08:39 |
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| pgregory | oops, morning all | 08:39 |
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| pgregory | morning Yomogi-aren | 08:44 |
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| Yomogi-aren | mornin' | 08:44 |
| Yomogi-aren | long time no see | 08:44 |
| Yomogi-aren | apologies for not getting back on the environment thing, but my machine's just recently come back from apple | 08:48 |
| Yomogi-aren | logic board killed itself | 08:48 |
| pgregory | what environment thing? | 08:58 |
| Yomogi-aren | OS X environment setting app | 09:02 |
| pgregory | ah yes, never mind, we've basically decided that MacOSX support is not going to make it into 1.2.0 anyway. | 09:07 |
| Yomogi-aren | OS X support is far too complicated | 09:09 |
| Yomogi-aren | the only real effective way would be by making an installer :S | 09:09 |
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| tucks | happy tuesday all | 10:02 |
| pgregory | hi tucks | 10:03 |
| *** pgregory sets mode: +v tucks | 10:03 | |
| tucks | heya. long weekend? | 10:03 |
| pgregory | very happy Tuesday for me, I've gotten OpenEXR working on Win32|MinGW! | 10:03 |
| pgregory | tucks: yes, I had 2 days to take during Jan, and decided to take Monday as the last holiday from ARM. | 10:03 |
| tucks | pgregory : well done. I'm sure the windows masses will love that. | 10:04 |
| tucks | pgregory : Mondays are always the best to take off. I quite like working Fridays. | 10:05 |
| pgregory | still needs some cleaning up, and I need to get my machine at home doing it properly, but definite light at the end of the tunnel. | 10:05 |
| tucks | pgregory : two years ago I had so much holiday to take I worked 6 days in december. | 10:05 |
| tcolgate | mornin' all | 11:10 |
| pgregory | morning Minty | 11:11 |
| tcolgate | jpw are tjomgs? anything happenin? | 11:13 |
| tucks | meep! | 11:25 |
| pgregory | tcolgate: que? | 11:33 |
| * pgregory thinks tcolgate needs smaller/more accurate fingers. | 11:33 | |
| tucks | perhaps giant sized keys? | 11:40 |
| * tucks wonders what jpw translates to: hola ? | 11:41 | |
| pgregory | methinks j==h, p==o, w==w, t==t, j==h, o==i, m==n, g==g, s==s. | 11:43 |
| tucks | perhaps it's a new ultra-secure cipher? | 11:45 |
| tucks | ssh-keygen -t tcolgate ? | 11:46 |
| tcolgate | pgregory hs broken my one place to the left code. | 11:50 |
| tcolgate | One of my more common errors. | 11:51 |
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| Joron | Hello | 12:17 |
| pgregory | hi Michel | 12:31 |
| pgregory | Joron: got the OpenEXR stuff working on Windows now (just in time for the release). | 12:32 |
| Joron | How ? | 12:32 |
| pgregory | the images that are output by d_exr seem to be really washed out unless you view them with exrdisplay -n | 12:32 |
| tcolgate | well done! | 12:32 |
| Joron | with mingw ? | 12:32 |
| pgregory | Joron: yes, got the MinGW build to work (auto*) | 12:32 |
| tcolgate | Anything you can contribute back to them? | 12:32 |
| pgregory | took all weekend, and Monday, an reaffirmed my deep deep hatred of auto**crap** | 12:33 |
| Joron | Wow; well done. | 12:33 |
| pgregory | tcolgate: I will be documenting my procedure back to OpenEXR. | 12:33 |
| pgregory | the OpenEXR and MinGW people have all been helpful. | 12:33 |
| tcolgate | cool, I always found it odd that an image manipulation library should prove so bloodey hard to port. | 12:33 |
| pgregory | tcolgate: it's mostly the threading stuff that complicates it. | 12:34 |
| tcolgate | threading? | 12:34 |
| pgregory | yes, it has it's own threading library | 12:34 |
| tcolgate | does it have a streaming interface or something? | 12:34 |
| tcolgate | !!! | 12:34 |
| pgregory | it uses threading to do decompression etc. I think | 12:34 |
| tcolgate | blimey | 12:34 |
| tcolgate | right. | 12:35 |
| tcolgate | blimey | 12:35 |
| tcolgate | So is it atleast built on pthreads? Or is it entirely proprietery? | 12:35 |
| pgregory | of course, I've disabled threading in my build, in fact I've disabled everything that made it difficult. | 12:35 |
| pgregory | tcolgate: based on pthreads | 12:35 |
| pgregory | but that doesn't help on MinGW. | 12:35 |
| pgregory | ^^ and even after disabling everything, it was still difficult. | 12:36 |
| tucks | ah, you make it sound easy. Only took you three days ;-) | 12:38 |
| Joron | will you put the result OpenEXR library and header within <aqsis>/win32libs ? | 12:40 |
| pgregory | Joron: I can try, the first thing is to make sure my home Win32 machine works, as that is used for the official builds. | 12:41 |
| Joron | With OpenEXR site comes some image to try. d_exr, but exr2tif.dll will import the exr for the purpose of display. In principle d_exr.dll and exr2tif.dll should equally on your system. I could send you d_exr.dll, exr2tif.dll to compare with your mingw; the output should be the same. Personnally I had compiled a long time ago aqsis with vc7.1 and along with it d_exr.dll and exr2tif.dll. Even if I don't use anymore vc7.1 aqsis I still once | 12:45 |
| Joron | the beauty of exr file is not the result but what you gain once you produce such image. Extraordinary compression for image done with floating values. | 12:47 |
| Joron | (compare to tiff float value). | 12:48 |
| pgregory | Joron: I'm just trying to get it into w32libs, I'll let you know in a few minutes | 12:50 |
| Joron | I got to work... byebye maybe I'll be back in one hour. | 12:52 |
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| tcolgate | So are we close to 1.2 now? | 13:04 |
| tucks | this close [--] | 13:04 |
| tucks | Out on feb 1st isn't it, or Paul will commit hari-kari ? | 13:05 |
| tcolgate | You should be his second, it is your job to chop off his head if he cant go through with gutting himself. It was considererd to be a great honour. | 13:15 |
| * tcolgate has has some very odd freinds. | 13:15 | |
| ShortWave | tcolgate: All of us who watch samurai movies know this :) | 13:21 |
| pgregory | woohoo, OpenEXR is now in win32libs, all can build Win32 with OpenEXR support now. | 13:22 |
| tcolgate | yes, this particular mate though is a first dan in aikido-te (a particularly savage blend of aikido and karate), and studies japanese sword on the side. He is currently driving around in, what I have nicknamed, a karate wagon, a huge van covered in the livery of his dojo, trying to drum up business. | 13:23 |
| tcolgate | paul: well done! | 13:25 |
| * tucks drives a Pug 205 Gti. Much better than ye-olde karate wagon. | 13:25 | |
| tucks | though probably just as rattly. French cars... | 13:26 |
| * pgregory is keeping quiet. | 13:28 | |
| * tucks boggles. Just found out Rushes did the A-ha "Take on Me" video. | 13:29 | |
| tucks | I wonder what else is in the dusty archives. | 13:30 |
| pgregory | tucks: that's two of the most influential music videos of the time to Rushes, cool. | 13:33 |
| tcolgate | tucks: ANd Money For Nothing. | 13:33 |
| pgregory | tcolgate: my point exactly | 13:35 |
| tucks | and we telecine'd Kylie's "Can't get you out of my head" | 13:35 |
| tucks | fairly influential, for different reasons ;-) | 13:35 |
| pgregory | "telecine'd" ??? | 13:35 |
| tucks | umm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine - Though [I think] we just master graded [final colour correction] the video at that stage. | 13:37 |
| tucks | Though I remember seeing the VFX treatment and thinking, this is going to be cool. | 13:40 |
| tucks | For those of you that are interested, this is an excellent reference book: http://www.foyles.co.uk/foyles/display.asp?K=9780240516509&sf_01=KEYWORD&st_01=post+production&x=0&y=0&m=26&dc=1000 | 13:51 |
| * pgregory thinks his bookshelf is going to have to grow a bit soon. | 13:54 | |
| * tucks nods. Mine did somewhat. | 14:00 | |
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| tucks | right then. must head into work. | 14:29 |
| tucks | catch you all later. | 14:29 |
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| Joron | testing the exr for mingw right now. | 14:40 |
| pgregory | Joron: excellent, good to have a second pair of eyes. | 14:40 |
| Joron | it gives the same result as msdev 7.1 compiled version of d_exr. | 14:40 |
| pgregory | great | 14:42 |
| Joron | even exr2tif.dll works as good as msdev 7.1 compiled good work. | 14:43 |
| Joron | if you set GAMMA and you import an exr file the gamma will be taken into account. Well congratulation we have OpenEXR with mingw. | 14:45 |
| pgregory | good stuff, that's a nice have for 1.2.0 | 14:59 |
| Joron | back to work now... and thank again. | 15:03 |
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| pgregory | heh | 15:16 |
| pgregory | the longest suicide note in history...http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html | 15:17 |
| * tcolgate is considering stabbing himself in the head with a pen. | 15:22 | |
| ShortWave | tcolgate: A fine plan. | 15:23 |
| tcolgate | It may take some time. But I'm stubborn. | 15:23 |
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| renderguy | Afternoon all. | 15:25 |
| tcolgate | 'afternoon | 15:26 |
| * pgregory is considering adding fltk to the win32libs module, just to complete the set. | 15:30 | |
| tcolgate | might aswell, if it makes it means that aqsis + win32libs is all that is needed to build. | 15:32 |
| pgregory | tcolgate: not quite, you'll still need to get Boost | 15:35 |
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| Anteru | Hi all! | 15:58 |
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| Anteru | Hi Paul | 16:01 |
| pgregory | hi | 16:01 |
| Anteru | I'll try to compile the missing libs in the win32libs folder this evening | 16:01 |
| Anteru | By now, I just have zlib working. | 16:01 |
| pgregory | ok | 16:01 |
| Anteru | Quite busy but I hope I'll finish this evening, would be a starting point for anyone with VC++ 8 and/or Intel C++ 9 | 16:02 |
| Anteru | Catch you later | 16:06 |
| pgregory | gotta go, cya all later. | 16:14 |
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| renderguy | Gotta shoot, laterz. | 16:55 |
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| cgTobi | hi all | 17:34 |
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| Anteru | Hi Michel | 18:02 |
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| cgTobi | hi MJ | 18:02 |
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