Wednesday, 2006-08-23

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RajMorning all01:20
PseudonymG'day.01:30
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RajMorning  Andrew01:32
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cgTobihi Alex07:48
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tcolgatemornin' all10:08
cgTobimorning Minty10:09
cgTobihow is life?10:15
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ShortWavewheee10:19
cgTobihi Bobby10:20
ShortWave'sup?10:20
cgTobigood morning over there10:20
cgTobihm...the sky I guess10:20
ShortWaveheh10:20
cgTobihow about you? ;)10:20
ShortWavehttp://www.stormwind-studios.com/Misc/Bot2.jpg10:20
ShortWave10 minute model.10:21
ShortWavewell maybe 20 minutes10:21
ShortWavehttp://www.stormwind-studios.com/Misc/BotScreen.jpg10:21
ShortWaveThe "Making of the 20 minute model"10:21
cgTobicool10:22
ShortWaveanyway10:22
ShortWaveI'm up...but don't wanna be10:22
cgTobiwhy is that?10:23
ShortWaveeh, sleepy10:24
ShortWaveI should drag my ass to the pool, but I've been getting < 6 hours of sleep for the last 2 weeks or so10:24
ShortWaveThat sucks10:24
cgTobiI know that feeling10:29
ShortWave`Oh hey10:35
ShortWaveI forgoto to mention10:35
ShortWaveI figured out a way of getting real motion blur out of blender10:35
ShortWaveGranted, it's one hell of an egregious hack...10:35
ShortWavebut it will work10:35
ShortWaveI just haven't had a chance to ask paul about what he was doing. I think I might have duplicated his idea, but I'm not sure.10:36
tcolgatetobi: pretty bloodey good actually.10:39
tcolgatetobi: got my next wine certificate the other day...10:39
cgTobinice to hear Minty10:39
cgTobicongrats10:39
tcolgatetobi: and met a particularly lovely lady last night10:39
ShortWaveYay!10:39
tcolgatetobi: presuming I don't f*ck things up (I'm good at that),things could be really good10:40
tcolgatealso applied for a ocuple of wine related jobs yesterday, more to see what is out there than anything else.10:41
cgTobihehe, sounds like you have a really good time10:44
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Rajafternoon all12:54
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cgTobihi all, back home14:54
ShortWaveHowdy14:55
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cgTobihowdy Bobby, cheers on the btor wiki page14:56
cgTobilooks good14:56
cgTobiunfortunately I couldn't get it running on OSX yet14:56
ShortWaveNo?14:56
cgTobibut will try again14:56
ShortWaveBummer14:56
ShortWaveWhat happened?14:56
cgTobiwell, I shoud say it was not because of btor, but because of the circumstances14:57
cgTobiI'll give it another go right now14:59
cgTobijust checking the prerequisits14:59
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ShortWaveI'm digging into metaclass programming in Python15:13
ShortWaveinteresting stuff15:13
ShortWaveSince I had a real interesting idea.15:13
cgTobiok, everthing should be in place15:14
ShortWaveSpiffy15:14
ShortWaveYou see my buzzbot?15:14
ShortWavehttp://www.stormwind-studios.com/Misc/Bot2.jpg15:14
cgTobiyeah, you showed it this morning, looks cool15:15
ShortWavethat's a 10 minute model, literally15:15
cgTobiok, btor does not appear in scripts->render15:15
ShortWaveYou gots to copy btor.py there15:15
ShortWaveAnd restart blender15:15
cgTobiwhere?15:16
cgTobi.blender/scripts/ ?15:16
cgTobioops15:16
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cgTobiI should read more carefully15:16
cgTobiahhhh15:20
cgTobicool15:20
cgTobiit has to be a real copy, no link15:20
cgTobianother thing15:21
cgTobihm15:21
cgTobidoesn't load because it can't find cgkit15:21
cgTobiand blender ships with python2.315:21
cgTobinot 2.415:21
cgTobiIIRC I couldn't get the other version with 2.4 to start15:21
ShortWavehrm15:22
ShortWaveOk that might not be so hard to fix15:22
ShortWaveWhich other version?15:22
cgTobithe blender version with python2.415:22
ShortWaveok15:22
cgTobithere are two IIRC15:22
ShortWaveWhere di you put cgkit?15:22
ShortWavewhere did, etc.15:22
cgTobiwell, I installed it15:22
cgTobiwith its setup tool15:23
cgTobilets se15:23
cgTobie15:23
cgTobiI can do python >>> import cgkit without a problem on commandline15:23
cgTobiwhy can't blender use the systems python15:23
ShortWavemake a new blender text document15:24
cgTobidid15:24
ShortWaveok, hold one15:24
ShortWavedo import sys15:26
ShortWaveprint sys.path15:26
ShortWaveand hit alt+p15:26
ShortWaveand see what shows up in the blender window15:26
ShortWavedid you test if you can do import protocols?15:27
cgTobion commandline, yes15:27
cgTobinothing happens15:27
cgTobibut on commandline it prints the systempath's15:28
ShortWaveInteresting15:28
ShortWavein blender, pull the top panel down15:28
cgTobik15:28
ShortWavei.e. hover the mouse at the base of the "file" menu until the cursor changes, then pull that down15:29
ShortWaveclick "File paths"15:29
ShortWaveand set your python path to whereever python is installed15:29
ShortWavewe'll try this first15:29
cgTobihm, do you mean the framework?15:31
ShortWaveframework?15:32
cgTobifor get the frameworkstuff15:35
ShortWaveget it working?15:36
* ShortWave clings to his desk with white knuckles.15:36
cgTobiyou do what???15:36
ShortWaveI'm waiting to see if you get it working.15:38
cgTobiah, IC15:40
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ShortWaveYou can actually append to your python path15:43
cgTobicould it be possible that it does not work because I built cgkit for/with python 2.4 not 2.3?15:43
ShortWaveHave you tried importing it with 2.3?15:44
cgTobinot yet15:45
ShortWaveTry that.15:45
ShortWaveThat should be most illuminative15:45
cgTobiah, I couldn't import cgkit nor protocols15:45
ShortWavewell then15:46
cgTobiI'll try the blender py2.4 version again15:46
ShortWaveGood idea15:46
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cgTobiso, while waiting for python to be built (again) what are your plans? for btor??16:00
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cgTobigreat, seams like I have 2 python version on my mac :/16:20
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ShortWaveI return16:44
ShortWavesorry16:44
ShortWaveMy plans?16:44
ShortWaveBig plans16:44
ShortWaveHuge plans you might say16:44
ShortWaveI eventually want Neqsus to be an API that anyone can use within blender.16:44
ShortWaveI'm working on a way to be able to customize it based on metaclasses and XML config files16:45
cgTobiwow16:46
cgTobithat really sounds like a huge plan16:46
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ShortWaveit's not as complicated as it sounds17:00
ShortWaveIt's tricky to be sure17:00
ShortWaveBut that's not the "huge" part17:00
cgTobibut?17:00
ShortWaveThe huge part is making it attractive to movie studios17:00
cgTobiwhat esle?17:00
ShortWave:)17:00
cgTobiheh17:00
ShortWavelike that's not enough?17:01
ShortWavehehehe17:01
ShortWaveCURSE YOU!17:01
ShortWaveheh17:01
cgTobi:)17:02
ShortWaveI'm about to redesign shader parameters17:07
ShortWaveSo they're more like properties17:08
ShortWaveWhich just makes more sense, really17:08
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AkhILHello!22:48
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Rajhi AkhIL22:53
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